港府与学联对话结束 重大原则仍存争议

<div><div style="display: inline-block;"></div></div> <figure style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 16px; margin: 32px -53.546875px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; clear: both; background-color: #111111;"><img src="http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/ws/625/amz/worldservice/live/assets/images/2014/10/21/141021130311_hk_dialogue_officials_640x360_bbcchinese.jpg" width="640" height="360" style="color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; height: auto; max-width: 100%; -webkit-user-select: none; width: 637.765625px; display: block;" alt="" /><figcaption style="border: 0px; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="border: 0px; color: #ececec; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 1.2rem; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: 1.33333; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; display: block;">香港政府与学联代表两小时的对话结束后,港府代表、政务司长林郑月娥(中)承认双方分岐很大。</span></figcaption></figure><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 28px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">香港特区政府与香港学联周二(21日)傍晚6时就政改问题展开2小时对话,双方在重大原则问题上仍有分歧。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 23px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">BBC中文网记者陈志芬香港黄竹坑报道说,香港政府与学联代表两小时的对话结束后,港府代表、政务司长林郑月娥承认双方分岐很大。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">林郑月娥在会后对记者发表讲话时承认与学联在重大原则上,例如公民提名,废除功能组别等,仍有分歧。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">林郑月娥重申,会谈当中重提的废除功能组别,公民提名等,并不符合基本法,承认在重大原则上仍有分歧。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">林郑月娥在会上透露,打算向中央反映这次运动的民众要求,将向国务院港澳办提交特别报告,反映民情。但她表示,报告对2017年的特首选举具体安排,是否有影响仍是言之尚早,也未确定是否有参考作用。</p><h2>林郑:政制发展需符合4大原则</h2><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">政制发展需符合4大原则林郑月娥愿意向主管香港事务的国务院港澳办提交报告,交待香港近日发生影响深远的事件,不少团体对普选特首及政改的要求。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">不过,她强调由于不认同港府已经向中国人大常委会提交的政改报告是&#8220;不尽不实&#8221;,所以不会再向人大常委会提交补充报告。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">政务司长林郑月娥在会见学联时,指现时许多人对普选有疑虑,包括现时普选的限制是否永远适用。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">她称,虽然现时普选的框架定左,但仍有空间讨论具体方案。而人大虽有设限,但不是永远适用,政府已不止一次表明,在2017年以后,仍可按基本法改进普选。</p><figure style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 16px; margin: 24px -24.328125px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; clear: both; background-color: #111111;"><img src="http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/ws/590/amz/worldservice/live/assets/images/2014/10/21/141021130924_hk_624x351_bbcchinese.jpg" width="624" height="351" style="color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; height: auto; max-width: 100%; -webkit-user-select: none; width: 608.546875px; display: block;" alt="" /><figcaption style="border: 0px; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="border: 0px; color: #ececec; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 1.2rem; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: 1.33333; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; display: block;">政府与学联进行对话,并设直播,多个占领区示威者聚集看对话情况,截至下午6时30分,金钟已迫爆。</span></figcaption></figure><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">林郑月娥表示,今次学生的示威和平,值得肯定,但毕竟是违法行为,呼吁学生在争取民主之余,不要危害法治。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">她又称,这些日子以来有警方使用武力的报道,令市民有感觉,认为警方一直用这些手段来处理示威者,但事实上,过去20多天,警方执法是容忍的。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">她又表示,人大在8月31日作的决定,一开始已说明参考及审议了香港社会各界的意见,并非完全以特首报告作依归,并非这么简单。</p><h2>周永康:人大决定如阉割民主路</h2><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">学联秘书长周永康在开场白中表示,人大上月就政改的决定,就如阉割民主路,令港人30年来争取的民主落空。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">经过20多天占领行动,政府日前答应今日与学联就政改问题对话。学联昨表明3项要求,包括特区政府须向人大提交补充报告、必须有&#8220;公民提名&#8221;、以及废除立法会功能组别。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">周永康说,1.3万名学生罢课,数十万人出街公民抗命,因抗争吃催泪弹、警棍,导致头破血流,其实是迫于无奈,被政府迫到没有方法,不靠抗争,对话难以实行。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">周永康形容,香港争取民主30年,人大就政改的决定,就如阉割民主路,令港人争取民主落空。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">对于林郑提出向港澳办提交特别报告,反映近期香港民意,周永康希望政府能清楚说明报告会有什么效用,又希望政府愿意与市民一同走民主路。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">周永康指特首梁振英已没有认受性,但作为港人的官员,希望他们能有气魄有承担,响应民意,思考&#8220;做民主英雄还是历史罪人?&#8221;</p><h2>示威者反应</h2><figure style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 16px; margin: 24px -24.328125px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; clear: both; background-color: #111111;"><img src="http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/ws/590/amz/worldservice/live/assets/images/2014/10/21/141021131022_hk_624x351_bbcchinese.jpg" width="624" height="351" style="color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; height: auto; max-width: 100%; -webkit-user-select: none; width: 608.546875px; display: block;" alt="" /><figcaption style="border: 0px; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="border: 0px; color: #ececec; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 1.2rem; font-weight: inherit; letter-spacing: inherit; line-height: 1.33333; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; display: block;">&#8220;占中三子&#8221;之一戴耀廷坐在前排,聚精会神收看直播。</span></figcaption></figure><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">政府与学联进行对话,并设直播,多个占领区示威者聚集看对话情况,截至下午6时30分,金钟已迫爆。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">BBC中文网记者叶靖斯在金钟现场报道,对话会结束之际,金钟佔领区市民集体报以嘘声。中文大学学生会会长张秀贤说,无论大家是否满意这次对话,这都是示威者争取回来的一次对话。市民鼓掌回应。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">当周永康提到提委会不平等、梁振英令低于1.4万月入的市民做二等公民、质问5名官员是否记得港大校训,以及集会不只学生,而是有老中青市民时,全场相当激动,拍掌叫好。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">当林郑月娥说政改报告是全面客观时,戴耀廷低头冷笑,当林郑月娥反问为何现时方案不是推进民主进程、警察努力执法时,市民嘘声四起。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">周二会面双方各有5名代表出席会面,政府方面有政务司长林郑月娥、律政司长袁国强、政制及内地事务局副长谭志源、副局长刘江华,及特首办主任邱腾华。</p><p style="border: 0px; color: #404040; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, STHeiti, 华文黑体, \’Microsoft YaHei\’, 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, \’WenQuanYi Micro Hei\’, sans-serif; font-size: 1.6rem; line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 18px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: #ffffff;">学联5名代表则为秘书长周永康、副秘书长岑敖晖、常委罗冠聪、常委梁丽帼及常务秘书钟耀华。</p>


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