<p><br /></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">对“反对运动”要仔细划分</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">它是不一样的。有一种只叫“异议运动”</span>: <span style="font-family:SimSun;">他们就是发表自己的不同政见。它不叫民主运动</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">因为它没有大量的民众追</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">随、参与</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他们这个“异议”也可能有很大影响</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">当然多半都是地下刊物</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是它不叫民主运动。民主运动</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">一定要把别人召集得上来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">跟着你一块干</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">明确表示支持你</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">这才叫群众性的民主运动。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">这种运动是非常少见的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">苏联其实没有过</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">苏联只有不同政见的活动。</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">中国倒发生过一些。从这个角度讲</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">子明他是相当成功的。共产党对他监视</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">那也是后来监视得紧</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">开头监视得并不紧。想想看</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他参加西单民主墙运动</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">并没有妨碍他后来考研究生</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他</span> 1980 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年在民主墙都给封掉了以后考的研究</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">生</span>;<span style="font-family:SimSun;">然后</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">也并没有妨碍他去下海</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">干那么一大摊事。要知道要干那些个事</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">是很要些影响、很要些关系的—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">如果你是很敏感的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">根本不可能。他不</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">是街上卖大碗茶的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">本来就是个边缘分子</span>;<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他搞的事不一样</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那不是光靠他</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">自己的神通</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那得有一大堆社会关系。这说明体制能够容忍你</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">对你不是特</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">别忌讳</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">如果他对你特别忌讳</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你根本就搞不成。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">所以</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">可见当时—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">在</span> 1989 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年“六四”之前—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">子明能够在体制下做</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">那么多事情</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">活动余地那么大</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">除了他个人能干</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">当时有这种生存空间</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">是</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">很难得的。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">后来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">“六四”来了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">大潮一卷</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">全军覆没</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">跟以前做的根本没有关系。</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">包括知识界很多人也是</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">根本没怎么掺合—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">香港的事也是一样的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">要是弄</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">不好</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那就是全部倒霉</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不是就那几个最坚定分子。一旦倒过去</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就是所有</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">的人都倒霉</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">在那里的人都跟着倒霉。特别在中国这种情况下</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那么大的翻</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">盘</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">之后才会形成后来这个局面</span>,25 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年也翻不了身</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">民运再也发动不起来。</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">只有维权还有个规模</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那都是突发事件</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">都是一哄而上的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">也不是商量好的</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">就去了。而以民主作为诉求的民主运动</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">在最容易发生的地方</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">像青年学生集中的学校里</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就基本上再也没有发生了。这是一个很大的、很严重的问题</span>: <span style="font-family:SimSun;">学生都动不起来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">别的社会阶层基本都不太可能动起来。像你签字请愿啊</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">零八宪章啊</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那都叫异议运动</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不叫群众民主运动—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">不就是你们这些异议</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">人士自己吗</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你并没有把别的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">一般的普通人卷入进来嘛。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">“六四”以后</span> 20 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">多年</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">在这个意义上</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">中国没有民主运动了。而且都</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">很难想象在什么时候</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">什么地方</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">会有一帮人再搞起来。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">维权运动之所以能搞起来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">道理很简单</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">因为它的诉求低</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而且确实没有政治性。参加的人知道自己没有政治性</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">政府也知道他没有政治性</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">所以他才敢上去。政府也相对不是每一次来就一定要镇压</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">并不是一有群体事件就扼杀在萌芽中</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不是这个样子的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他要看情况</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">看要怎么处理解决。也就是说</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">维权运动之所以还有一定的生存空间</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就在于它的那种非政治性。你现在很难想象在中国哪个地方</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">把自由民主这一类的东西当作他的直接诉求目标</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">居然可以在当地集中起成千上万的人。很难出现这种局面了。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">当年我们竞选的时候</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">都知道</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">竞选人民代表本身没有一点意思</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就是</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">想证明我们的观念在学生中是占上风的。军涛不在乎</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">军涛年轻气盛嘛</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">说选不选得上都无所谓</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他本来是百分之百选得上</span>;<span style="font-family:SimSun;">我就很在乎要选上</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">很</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">简单</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你要没选上</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那边就说了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">“学生中间虽然有些人鼓吹自由化</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">大多数同学</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">怎么怎么样”—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">那话就来了。你选上</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他这话就说不出来了</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">你非得要成功</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">给他看</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他没话可说嘛。所以在那种情况下</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">包括子明也是</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">在那种场合下</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">显然我们都知道</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不可能把自己所有想法都说出来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">全都说</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">出来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">学生中一大半就不敢投你的票了。你同时要把自由化的东西基本上都</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">点出来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是有些事情你又不能走太远了—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">你要别人投你的票嘛。不仅要</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">吸引与你一样坚定的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">还要吸引那些犹豫不决的人、认识不那么清楚的人</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">只有他们也参与了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">投你的票</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你才可能得到足够的多数票嘛。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">“六四”之前本来这些都很清楚</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">大家都摸索了一些经验。“六四”之</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">后整个一个大翻盘</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">使得人们整个事情都看不清楚了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">现在人们动不动就说</span>(<span style="font-family:SimSun;">温和与激进</span>)<span style="font-family:SimSun;">“都一样”</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">说“许志永不是很注意吗</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">浦志强不也抓了吗</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">”</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">可见“全都一样”。当然这不一样</span>!<span style="font-family:SimSun;">许志永毕竟搞了那么长时间</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">浦志强毕竟搞了那么多年</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">跟突然冒出来造成的影响力</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">毕竟不一样。有了一段时间的存活机会</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就有了一定的可能性</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">把有些事情、有些思想传播出去</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就可以造成影响。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">我一再强调</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">这和你发表不同政见是不一样的。如果你觉得体制内的空</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">间大</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">一辈子从体制内寻找发表空间</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那你就得将就着受他的审查</span>;<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是“不</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">同政见”</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">很大程度上就是你的见解和别人不一样</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">见解有超出他的成分—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">尽管你在中间也可以做很多调整</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">让检查官员一下子看不出来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">这种可能性</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">也有</span>;<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是如果是以发表不同政见作为你的目的的话</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">你并不把在一时之间</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">能够得到多少人有形的支持</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">看得很重</span>;<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你要在乎把问题说得好</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">说得尖锐</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">说得清楚</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">哪怕只有少数人懂了呢</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">只有少数人看了呢。那不重要</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">因为有</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">这少数人看就够了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他们是起作用的人。一般街头上的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">对参加运动很重</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">要</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是对于懂不懂你的思想</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">根本不重要。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是你搞群众运动</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你要造成那种风潮</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那你就一定要考虑怎么能让其</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">他人加入进来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">怎么公开地表示—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">不是肚子里表示</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不是回家跟老婆说话</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">的时候表示</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而是明确地表示要支持你。这件事情</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">“六四”之后始终很难</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">办</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">一方面当局比过去更敏感</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">压制的时候更不在乎借口</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而过去总需要一</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">些借口。另外</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">主要是民气—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">少了那种声势。大家实际是处在失败主义情</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">绪之下</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">觉得什么都干不成</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">觉得干什么都受压制一定是必然的。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">失败主义就会造成自我实现</span>:<span style="font-family:SimSun;">既然参与的人那么少</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">官方打压起来当然</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">就很容易</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">到时候他就反过来证明</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">“我跟你说了吧</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你看</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">搞不成吧</span>!<span style="font-family:SimSun;">”</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">其实如果他们大家都参加</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就搞成了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">官方就很难打压</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">这也是个自我实现嘛。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">“六四”之后这</span> 20 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">多年</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">其实有些空间是比“六四”之前更大了。不</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">说别的</span>,1979 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年审魏京生的时候</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">刘青他们不就偷偷带了录音机进去</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">整</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">理了印出来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">街头巷尾散发</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就给抓起来了吗</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">现在哪儿审个什么异议人士</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">你看一大帮人跑了去了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">门口站着</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">拉个条儿</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">把他们法庭上的答辩词到处</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">散布</span>……<span style="font-family:SimSun;">相比起来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">当局的反应还不如</span> 1979 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年来得更狠</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">来得更快。</span>1989 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年以前</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">几乎没有对这种具有政治含义的审判能够公开上街、扯条表示反对</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">的。但是问题是</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">老百姓没有这种跃跃欲试的劲头了。其实</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">大多数人总是抱着一种成功的希望</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他才会走出来的—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">少数人可以不顾这一切</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">多数人</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">他一定是有这个希望在里头才会去。现在他没有这种希望了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而没有希望</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">他就不出来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不出来就更没有希望—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">成了这种恶性循环。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">群众运动</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">说到底就是比规模。</span>1989 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年那次有什么了不起</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">提的口号</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">比</span> 1979 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年那时还差呢</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但就是人多嘛。过去几十个几百个人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">现在变成是</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">全中国几千万人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那就是不得了的事情嘛。像香港占中提的那个口号也很简</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">单</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而且没说反对中共专制统治</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">它不就靠人多嘛</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就一下子成了大事情了嘛。</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">而中国大陆现在有规模的、能真正对当局造成压力的民主运动</span>,25 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年过去了</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">没有出现</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而且</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">随着时间的推移</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你看不出来有好的情绪冒出来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那种参</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">与的热情</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">对自己力量的一种自信</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">都看不到。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">所以我老讲</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">现在讲上世纪</span> 80 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年代其实都没说到点子上。人家说</span> 80 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年代也没什么了不起</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">赵紫阳没讲什么政治上了不起的话</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">胡耀邦也没讲什</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">么</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那时候报纸上公开发表的东西也不怎么样</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">还比不上现在说得狠呢</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">因</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">为现在至少</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">意识形态上</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">原来那一套松动了嘛</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">控制比原来少一些了。但</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">是</span>,80 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年代有那么一股劲头</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">我们是过来人知道</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">能感到一股势头在那儿</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">走到哪儿去</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">都感觉到有一股东西在往上头冒、往上头冲。你只要遭受迫害</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">不要太深</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">受一定的压制</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你发现你是很受欢迎的。而学生啊年轻人啊</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">整</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">个地都有那么一种劲头在那儿。所以这就是为什么在</span> 1989 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年刚刚一开年</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">很多人就觉得中国今年肯定要出事情</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">普遍都这么认为。那就是你看得出来</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">感觉得到嘛。这个很难描述</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">因为它没有哪个社会学经济学的可量度的指标</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">根据那个指标</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">达到三了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">达到二了</span>……<span style="font-family:SimSun;">没有那个东西</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你找不出什么。民</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">众的情绪</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">又没有特殊的表达方式</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">所以你没有指标</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">没有量度</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但谁都能</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">感受到</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那个时候和现在就是不一样。不一样</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就是在一种社会整体气氛上</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">的不一样</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而现在</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你感受不出中国有这种气氛。这也使得很多像子明这种</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">英雄就无用武之地了嘛。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">在</span> 80 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年代末</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">军涛他们开始是不打算介入的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">后来介入了。这事我没</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">有跟他细细交流</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是我推想</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">实际上很简单</span>:<span style="font-family:SimSun;">第一</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他们正是多年做这种</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">事情的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他们很清楚</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不会低估当局那种压制的力量。他们也知道当局中有些人也比较开明</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他们也知道这种开明会到什么程度。所以他们才会采取那种态度</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">因为他们不太相信就靠这么着</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就能够让当局做出你们所要求的改变。在这种情况之下</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他们就会认为</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">和执政的、体制内比较温和的改革派的一种配合是必要的。和改革派的配合</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你都不能对他要求太高</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你不能动不动就问</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">赵紫阳怎么不能当叶利钦</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你对他指望太高了嘛</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">先就不要那么想嘛。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">如果这么一看</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他当时采取的那种态度</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就是挺有道理的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">正是对友军、</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">对敌军有个很清醒的分析、很明确的算计。到头来</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">结果就是我们看见的</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">一旦失败了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">所有的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不管你当时温和不温和</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">都受到牵连。那没怎么受</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">到牵连的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">有的是离得太远</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">有的赶快回去写检讨、去认错去了。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">我们知道很多受迫害比较深的人并不是当时卷得很深的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是他不认错嘛。到后来当局也知道</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">参与的人那么多</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">叫你认个错也是假的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你糊弄</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">一下</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">反正给他个面子</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但他要这个就够了—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">你说“我参加动乱</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">我不小</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">心</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">我错了”</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那他就放你一马。有的人参与得很有限</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但他始终不认错</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">那就是永远过不了关。我知道很多人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">都是参与得并不深</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但仗着他参与不</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">深</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">个性又强</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他就是不认错</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那边看你既然不认错</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那就不能让你过这个</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">关</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就一定给他一个在此范围内最严厉的打压</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">很多情况是这样子。很多卷得很深的人呢</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">摇身一变</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">痛哭流涕一番</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">也就过去了—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">当然当局也还要看</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你真要深到那份上了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">到非抓你不可的程度了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那你横竖是打击对象。</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">官方肯定有很多很多这种分类。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">现在在这个问题上居然对他们指责</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">说他们是共产党派来的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">去天安门</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">是统战部派来的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">“你搞统战</span>!<span style="font-family:SimSun;">”又把统战想得很坏</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">搞统战就是坏事</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">于</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">是军涛和子明成了坏人了。而从来就没有人想过</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">当时他们不就是主张撤嘛</span>? <span style="font-family:SimSun;">主张撤</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">阎明复他们有这个想法</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">也许赵紫阳有这个想法</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那以后事实证明他们是好人。当时谁最不愿看到学生撤呢</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">李鹏肯定最不愿看到学生撤了</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">那你怎么不说坚持到底的人是李鹏派来的呢</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">他那种逻辑</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">永远是左的吃香嘛</span>!</p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">没有人从道义上去指责那些人有什么不对</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">而子明、军涛他们已经付出这么大代价了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">这些已经证明他们是正确的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">后来的事实证明他们以自己的坚贞不屈付出了一辈子的代价</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他们还要遭受名誉上的最大损害</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">说“你们是共产党”</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">这连起码的公平都没有了嘛</span>!<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那些人当中</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">有人后来也不干民运了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">闷声发大财</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">回到中国成了座上客</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那些态度坚定的人、爱抓特务的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">谁去抓他这个“特务”了</span>?</p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">我们永远看到一些人在道义制高点来骂子明</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">反过来</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">对那些真正祸国</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">殃民的人</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">从来是宽大</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">只要他调子足够高—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">甚至</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">只要你原来那么高</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">后来变调都没关系—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">对那些人有那么大的容忍度</span>!<span style="font-family:SimSun;">你说</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">要是子明、王军</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">涛真去发了大财了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那还不把你脑袋骂破了</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">因为你原来就这个表现啊</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">正</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">好连到一块了</span>!<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他这个逻辑是很奇怪的。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">这个想法不纠正</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就不会有第二次运动</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不会有了。我们经历过</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">老百</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">姓是怎么想的</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">我们该清楚啊</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不是唱高调就能解决问题的嘛。</span>20 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">多年过</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">去了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">老说“高潮要来”</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而且说“老百姓擦亮眼睛了”</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不是那么回事嘛。</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">这个情况我们都经历过</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">特别经历过毛时代</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">都知道的嘛。毛时代过去</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">毛</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">垮台了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">新的人上来了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">至少没以前那么权威了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">很多人在那个时候才比较</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">敢于说话</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">在毛时代敢于说话的人就要少得多嘛。不是压迫、不是苦难</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">而</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">是人们的希望</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">是唤起人们站出来行动的一个最重要的因素—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">他要看到希</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">望。要是打压太紧张</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">觉得完全没有希望</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">他就放弃了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">尤其是放弃抗争他</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">也能过日子</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">甚至还能过得不错</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那他干什么要站出来呀</span>?<span style="font-family:SimSun;">如果他没有退路</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">放弃就是死路一条</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">那又另当别论了。人的这个情绪应该是很清楚的。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">所以</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">从子明的去世</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">我觉得我们至少应该把这个问题再次提出来。这</span><span> </span><span style="font-family:SimSun;">个不仅是关系到对子明个人的历史定位、对他的评价</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">也是对中国整个民主</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">运动的一个很重要的检讨。而且这种检讨</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">不是个纯学术的问题</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">关键是对</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">今后会有非常大、非常大的影响。这</span> 25 <span style="font-family: SimSun;">年来我们都在受到这个影响</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不能</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">再看</span> 25 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年了。</span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-family:SimSun;">如果再过</span> 10 <span style="font-family:SimSun;">年</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">那种情况还不出现的话</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">就永远不会出现了。将来中</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">国可能会变化</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但那是从别的角度出来的变化</span>:<span style="font-family:SimSun;">上面自己打起来啦</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">出了戈尔巴乔夫啦</span>……<span style="font-family:SimSun;">等等</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">但是不可能从民运推出变化了</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">不是我们大家原来一直以为的、期望的、来自民间的、来自体制外的、来自社会包括青年学生的</span>, <span style="font-family:SimSun;">主动参与</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">主动推动,</span><span style="font-family:SimSun;">敲开了整个变化的第一步—</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;">这种场面就不会出现了</span>! <span style="font-family:SimSun;">也就是说</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">随着“六四”的失败</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">这个就从此画上句号了。当时有多么轰轰烈烈</span>,<span style="font-family:SimSun;">它的失败可能就会有</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">多么惨重</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">惨重到以至你过了多少年之后</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">再也不会有了</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">你才会知道那次的失败有多么惨、创伤会有多么深。</span> <span style="font-family: SimSun;">我想借纪念子明的这种机会说说这些想法—</span> <span style="font-family: SimSun;">恰恰就是子明</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">坐牢坐这</span> <span style="font-family: SimSun;">么久</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">坚持扛着</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">就不认这个错</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">出来之后又一直这么受打压</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">居然有人还</span> <span style="font-family: SimSun;">从道义上去指责他</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">这简直岂有此理嘛</span>!<span style="font-family: SimSun;">这种毫不负责任的东西</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">对中国整</span> <span style="font-family: SimSun;">个异议运动和民主运动有多么大、多么大的危害</span>!<span style="font-family: SimSun;">我想军涛肯定和我有很多同感</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">我觉得把这个问题提出来</span>,<span style="font-family: SimSun;">还是很有意义的。</span></p><div> </div> <p> </p> <p><em><span style="font-family:SimSun;">(此文是胡平在</span>2014<span style="font-family:SimSun;">年</span>10<span style="font-family: SimSun;">月</span>28<span style="font-family:SimSun;">日中国研究院陈子明讨论会上的发言,后收入徐晓主编的《殉道者--缅怀陈子明》一书)</span></em></p>