愚民政策的自供状:中央党校座谈纪要

<div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">(2014-04- 09 16:34:53)</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">【布楚维奇案】2010年7月24日,中央党校某会议室召开了一<wbr>次</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">别开生面的座谈会,与会教授围绕校长有关指示&#8220;畅所欲言</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&#8221;,丑态百出,活生生一幅自供状,用不打自招来形容十分贴</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">切;不知情的人还以为是某精神病院的分裂症患者在集体发作</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。这次座谈会主题是:党史中哪些真相不能对外讲。主持人是</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">石副校长,参加座谈的&#8220;高级&#8221;人士有:罗、王、李、冯、任</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">、郭,韩、王、胡、谢、程、陈、柳、曹等教授,并有博导14</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">人。下面是座谈会纪录。(2014年4月9日,布楚维奇,长沙)</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">主持人:习近平同志近日在我校的讲话极为重要。近年来,我</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">们在如何对待中共党史问题上出现了一些混乱,主要问题是:</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我党历史上的一些有争议的问题教学中讲不讲,对社会上是否</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">透露。我看习校长的讲话把这些问题基本上都解决了。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">今后,我们的一切工作,就是要坚定不移地维护党的利益,维</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">护党的领导地位,因此,凡是有损我党光辉形象的事坚决不想</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,坚决不说,坚决不写,坚决不做。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">下面请同志们发言。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">罗:我是坚决拥护习近平同志的讲话精神的,我们的党校,不</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">是一般的党校,是中央党校;我们的学员不是一般的学员,都</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">是我党的中坚骨干分子。我们的任务就是,让这些学员更中坚</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,更骨干,让他们相信我们党从成立那天开始就是三个代表,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">近八十年来大方向一贯正确,这一点绝不能含糊。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">如果有学员问到历史上的某些问题,特别是一些负面东西,我</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">们怎样回答?我想,就讲是某些人的失误,是一时一事,我们</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">党也有个学习过程。还要强调个别的机会主义分子,野心家也</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">会干扰我党的大方向,但我们战胜了他们,更说明我党的伟大</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">光荣正确。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">王:党史中的一些史料就是不能对老百姓公开。为什么?不是</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">说群众有知情权吗?对,那是一方面。另一方面,我们党也有</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">保密权。哪个国家,哪个党都有不能公开的秘密,而且不许探</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">听。个人有隐私权,党也有隐私权,不能侵权。我们党的一些</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">隐私如果让老百姓知道了,肯定会造成思想上的混乱,会怀疑</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们党执政的合法性,那就乱了。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">一乱,社会怎能和谐,经济怎能发展?最明显的例子就是89年</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">那场风波,我们就是不能再讲了,因为说不清,非要讲就是揭</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">伤疤,更疼,还要流血。我们不讲,你们看,这二十年发展得</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">多好。父母不讲,学校不讲,青年人不知道,这对大家都好。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">还有,59、60、61年三年困难时期,你要是正式告诉老百姓我</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">党执政时期,三年里饿死三千八百万人,成千上万的村庄成了</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">无人村,哪还了得了!比日本人杀中国人还多,还省事,还省</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">时,还省钱,还不用牺牲自己人。老百姓听了这些非反了不行</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。所以我们讲党史要有底线,越过底线就犯规,就要受惩罚。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">习近平同志的意思也是这个。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">任:我就是不明白为什么有些人非得要将历史上的事情搞得清</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">清楚楚,加上自己的结论,还非得要出版,要讲课。我们说要</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">向前看,不要再纠缠在历史旧账上了。不说,对大家都有好处</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">中国人聪明,表现之一就是认识到一个真理&#8220;难得糊涂&#8221;。在</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">座的各位领导,博导,教授,我们是党校党史教学科研人员,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们的利益与党的利益紧密相连,一荣俱荣,一损俱损。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们都有了精神方面的财富,有高级职称,有社会地位。我们</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">的物质财富也比二十年前大幅提高,住房,汽车,家电,假期</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,医疗保障,有存款,丰衣足食,离退休保障,不少人给孩子</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,甚至孙子的房子都准备好了,你死了单位还出钱开追悼会。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我也出过国,到过发达国家,我们在座的诸位的物质生活不比</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">人家差。这些都是因为有了我们的党,我们又与党紧密相连,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">这就叫鱼水情。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">不就是不让你说点历史上的事吗,权衡一下利弊,还是不说为</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">佳。周总理曾经说过,党内的事,有些到死都不能说。你要是</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">非讲党史上的负面事情,那才叫搬起石头砸自己的脚,而且把</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">群众的思想搞乱了。一乱,什么都完了。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">郭:我就仅举一个例子,抗日战争。几十年来几代人都相信,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我党1934年进行了长征,爬雪山过草地,目的就是北上抗日。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">到达陕北后成为抗日战争的中流砥柱,领导全国人民抗战八年</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,打败了日本侵略者。这些已经深入人心,全国人民也都相信</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">这个宣传。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">可是现在有的党史教研人员不知通过谁的关系,看到了我党</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">1937年陕北洛川会议决定,知道了我党抗战时期的战略方针,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">即不与日军做大规模正面冲突,保存实力,积蓄力量,扩充队</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">伍,让国民党去和日本人打,两败俱伤,待日本人撤离后,共</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">产党可趁机夺取全国政权。毛主席在上世纪七十年代接见来华</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">访问的日本首相时清楚地说明了两点:</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">第一,没有日本侵华,中共肯定会被国民党消灭了,你们一来</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,国民党只好先放过我们,去打日本人,我们趁机坐大并夺取</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">了政权;第二,我们要感谢日本侵华,没有日本侵华就没有中</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">共的今天,所以我们的感谢是真诚的。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">大家说说,这两件事能随便就公开承认,让老百姓知道吗?否</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">则老百姓就会说你共产党真会耍阴谋,骗了全国人民几十年,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">几代人,你中共还有很多事瞒着我们吧?所以,不该讲的一定</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">不能讲,不该承认的一定不能承认。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">韩:有人说从1949年到1979年这三十年党史非常不好讲,我<wbr>承</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">认这个。因为这段时期可大肆宣传的好事不多。但是只要我们</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">认真学习,深刻领会习校长的讲话精神,这事也不难做到。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们(指党校教师&#8212;&#8212;布注)不是党政要员,他们大权在握,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">别人不信也得信,不服也得服。但我们是教员,是导师,(该</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">如何使人信服)?&#8212;&#8212;要以理服人。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">首先要自信。我们经历过那么多的大起大落,没被淘汰,随风</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">就势,与时俱进,能做到今天的教授,博导,说明我们有能力</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">适应新环境,完成新任务,能写出有说服力的文章和讲义。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们的另一个优势是学员都是受党教育多年的干部中的精华,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">他们懂纪律,懂得与中央保持一致,而且是思想上的一致。他</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">们不会往歪门邪道上想,我们讲什么他们就听什么,不会给我</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">们出难题。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">习校长要我们讲党史要讲主流,49至79年这三十年的主流是什</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">么?就是我们坚持了社会主义道路,坚持了党的领导。按照这</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">个主线讲就没问题,谁也驳不倒。具体怎样讲,大家都有不寻</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">常大脑,我相信都能讲好。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">胡:前两年我看到一篇攻击我党的文章,说我党夺取政权靠的</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">是枪杆子和笔杆子,我党当政后维持政权靠的还是这两杆子。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">文章意思是说,一是靠枪杆子武力镇压民众自发运动,二是用</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">笔杆子造谣,歪曲,篡改,掩盖历史真相。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">哪个国家维护政权不靠枪杆子?西方国家警察都带枪,用警察</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">代替军队维护政权。我国警察不带枪,形势危急时动用武警或</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">军队,实质上都是一样的。笔杆子这一条,我觉得现在比枪杆</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">子还重要。我国与西方国家不同,人家多年来养成了习惯,不</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">随意相信政客们的讲话,不随意相信各种出版物的观点,大家</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">随便讲。你把执政党讲得再坏,人家选上来的,还是下不了台</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。你把在野党说得再好,大家不选你,你也上不了台。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们的国情就不同了。建国后,不管我党说什么,老百姓都认</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">为是真理,谁要说党出了错,全国人民都要共讨之,共诛之。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">这就是我们宣传的功绩,是笔杆子的作用,这个传统不能丢。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">现在呢,老百姓还是相信,或者叫轻信,信什么?专信那些对</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我党不利的消息,一传十,十传百,一呼百应,然后闹事。在</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">这种情况下,不用政府公布一些内情,只要有个教授,有个名</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">人举出一点负面例子,大家就相信,他说一句话造成的恶劣影</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">响我们说一百句也挽回不了。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">在这种国情下,就不能给老百姓讲什么我党历史上的从未公开</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">承认的所谓事情了。你承认一件,他们又拿出十件来问你,你</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">就下不来台了。俗话说好事不出门,坏事传千里,这样讲下去</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">没个头了,最后变成罄竹难书了。因此我举双手赞成习校长的</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">讲话,他的讲话精神就是该讲就讲,不该讲的就不能讲。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">谢:讲党史离不开党的指导思想。我们党的指导思想是什么?</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们一直讲是马列主义,毛泽东思想,这是党的思想的主线</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。1949年以前好说,不管别人怎样质疑,反正我们胜利了,掌</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">握了政权。在错误路线指导下是不可能胜利的,不可能歪打正</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">着,这叫反证法,谁也驳不倒。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">解放后的前三十年怎样讲?有的教员提出是在错误思想指导下</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">搞革命,搞建设。我看解放初期的镇反肃反主流是正确的,就</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">是多杀了,多关了,多劳教了不少人。可是没点儿红色恐怖,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们的政权就不会稳定。包括反右,反右倾,四清,虽然搞错</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">了,但是这些运动强化了群众头脑中党是神圣不可侵犯的观念</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,强化了谁反对党的领导谁就下地狱的观念。我们的党经过十</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">年文革仍牢牢掌握政权不能说和这些运动没关系。直到今天,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">你要说某个人反党,保证让他吓得睡不着觉。那些搞所谓民主</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">运动的人,提倡竞选的人也不敢公开反党。上面说的是国内,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">下面说说国际方面的事。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">79年以前我党指导思想的一个重要方面,就是在国际上反对修</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">正主义,批判以苏联为首的修正主义集团。我党在毛主席亲自</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">挂帅下发表了九篇经典文章,即&#8220;九评&#8221;。它们全面、深刻、</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">准确地反映了当时我党的指导思想。我们批修,实际上也是给</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">国内干部群众看呢,没人敢反驳,老百姓接受和继承了这些思</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">想,对稳定文革后的局势起了重大作用。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">可是你现在把&#8220;九评&#8221;发给老百姓看就麻烦了,老百姓就会说</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">九评都是胡言乱语,你中共做的比苏修还修一百倍。白纸黑字</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,咱们是有口难辩,跳进黄河洗不清。现在的中年人、青年人</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">对这些基本不清楚,不知道,也不感兴趣。毛主席说&#8220;人贵有</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">自知之明&#8221;,我们不要引火烧身,这也是习校长讲话的深层含</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">义。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">从79年到现在这后三十年就好说了。我们可以理直气壮地讲,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我党是在正确思想指导下建设有中国特色的社会主义。邓小平</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">理论,江泽民的三个代表,胡锦涛的科学发展观都是对马列主</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">义毛泽东思想的发展,取得了举世瞩目的成就。这样再反过来</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">证明我党的伟大正确。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">全世界都对我们这三十年都心服口服,说得不太谦虚点儿,全</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">世界都在研究我们,来取经,来朝圣。你国外再把我们说得这</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">不好,那不好,你别来呀,有种的把你们的发展速度和我们的</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">比一比。我们能有今天这种百凤朝阳的局面,不能不说是我党</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">宣传战略战术的伟大胜利,一定要继承下去。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">程:说到毛泽东思想,特别是49年至79年这段时期的毛泽东思</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">想怎么讲,我们先看一下大政方针。2009年国庆,我们的游行</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">队伍中就有毛泽东思想方阵,我们党和政府的中枢神经所在地</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">中南海大门外墙上的大标语仍是&#8220;战无不胜的毛泽东思想万岁</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&#8221;,天安门城楼正中间悬挂的还是毛主席的巨幅画像。这就明</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">确地告诉我们:</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">第一,不能否定毛泽东,他还是我党的伟大领袖。第二,毛泽</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">东思想仍然是战无不胜的,还是我党的指导方针。我们以前总</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">结建国后的毛泽东思想就是无产阶级专政下继续革命的理论,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">就是以阶级斗争为纲,反对资本主义复辟,防修反修,警惕隐</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">藏在党内的修正主义分子篡党夺权。现在这些全都不能再讲了</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。出了什么问题?我们的学员不会提出这样的问题,他们身份</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">特殊,前途无量。倒是我们的教研人员中有人提出这类问题,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">说什么合作化,公私合营,反右,三面红旗,中苏论战,四清</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,文化大革命都是毛泽东发动的,都是毛泽东思想的实践,结</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">果都是战无不败。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">怎样对待这个问题,我想,第一,不在校内教学中讲。第二,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">受聘到校外讲课作报告时也不主动讲。第三,如果真有某些不</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">识时务的人提这类问题,不用紧张,前些日子就有人拐弯抹角</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">提了这个问题,我们的曹教授很巧妙地回答了这个问题。我建</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">议组织几个人,研究一下,从理论上解决它,也算我们的科研</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">成果,将来遇到挑战就可应付自如了,省得闹个脸红脖子粗,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">下不了台。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">陈:说党史又离不开现状,现状最大的挑战就是所谓的腐败。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">老百姓一说到党,不说怎样伟大,不说怎样感谢党,张口就说</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">怎样腐败,什么病入膏肓呀,什么盘根错节呀,什么前腐后继</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">呀,中国文字中的负面词汇都说遍了还嫌不过瘾,还要古今结</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">合,中外结合,音韵结合,编顺口溜,创造新名词诋毁我们的</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">党,唯恐天下不乱。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">从中央最高层都很明确地提出反腐的问题,是关系到我党生死</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">存亡的问题。我认为是说到要害了。当然,像有病不治,特别</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">是慢性病,或治标不治本,人也会不死,拖个十年八年没问题</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。党内腐败是什么病?慢性病,急性病,还是癌症?我想反正</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">不是绝症,但不治的话,它又蔓延得非常快,保守治疗吧,又</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">根除不了,动大手术又承受不了,这是我党在新时期面临的新</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">课题,非常具有挑战性。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">要说严惩腐败分子,这个好说,随便找几个干部,肯定能查出</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">问题来,判他个十年八年没问题。但是不从根源上彻底清除,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">那还是野火烧不尽,春风吹又生。一说到根源,有些人就两眼</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">放光,说根源就是没有民主自由,民主自由就可保证人民有选</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">择权,有批评和监督权。有批评和监督就可发现腐败根源,有</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">选择权人民就可以清除它。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">这些是中听不中用,还是美国那套资产阶级民主自由,现在由</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">于时代潮流变了,我们不这样提了,但并不等于我们可以接受</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。我们党和国家领导人贾庆林、李长春、贺国强都一再强调中</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">国绝对不能搞西方民主自由,不能搞三权分立,因为历史赋予</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">中国共产党为中国各族人民利益的唯一代表,这个地位和责任</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">不允许任何人、任何政党挑战。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">不太恰当的比喻就是&#8220;君权神授&#8221;。不坚持中共的领导,中国</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">就会乱,中国人民就会吃二遍苦,遭二茬罪。当然,领导人的</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">讲话都没说清楚西方民主自由有什么不好,领导人一般来说都</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">不会详细论述,这就是为什么我们党校能存在的理由。这详细</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">论述的光荣任务就由我们党校教研人员来承当了。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">曹:中央领导人提出大政方针,我们就要详细论述,要让各级</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">领导干部不但执行,思想上也要有明确认识,我们中央党校就</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">是干这个的。为什么只有中央常委才能当我们的校长?因为我</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">们的学员就是将来,有些现在就是各级领导干部,他们就听中</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">央的,校长直接代表中央,他的讲话才具有绝对权威。中国历</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">史上只有黄埔军校、延安抗大才可相提并论。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我们的学员是来学理论的,实际上就是来接受政治思想教育的</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,不是来做学术研究的,给他们发个文凭也是为了回去后好开</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">展工作。学员们都是接班人,管好他们的思想,走在正路上,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">这是我们的责任。要做好他们的工作,首先从我们做起,要深</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">刻领会习校长的讲话精神,管好自己的嘴巴,不该说的就不要</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">说。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">柳:我觉得给学员讲腐败问题时要非常谨慎。老百姓说我党腐</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">败已经说得都不想再说了,我们的学员听得都不想再听了。在</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">以经济为中心的今天,实际上就是以创造财富,积累资本、再</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">创造、再积累为中心。对个人和家庭来说,就是要获取更多的</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">金钱,更多的财产,更多的享受。而且大家都有这个合法权利</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">捞钱最容易,最快的途径就是勤劳,智慧,机遇,胆识与权力</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">相结合。我党是执政党,各级官员都是聪明人,有魄力,要想</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">发财致富太有条件了。官员们经常明里从政,暗里经商,或让</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">老婆孩子经商发财,更省事的根本不用经商,商人自动就把钱</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">送上来,各方利益安排好了。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">这就是为什么今天在中国抓腐败分子很容易的原因,都不用警</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">察,用不着侦察员,老百姓随时都可拿出证据说谁是腐败官员</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">,而且一挖一大堆,一抓一大片。我们党目前内部掌握的政策</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">就是抓典型,杀一儆百,不能有一个查一个,否则就乱了。全</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">都查,全都抓,再有目前十倍的警察、法院、律师也不够用。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">再说目前的警察、法院、律师们都干净吗?都查都抓,各级党</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">政机构就没法工作了,瘫痪了,像文革那样了。俗话说&#8220;法不</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">治众&#8221;嘛。我们对学员讲,当然要强调腐败分子是极少数,绝</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">大部分干部是廉洁奉公的,是主流。这是习校长的精神。实际</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">上腐败也是相对的,二十年前你贪污五千块钱就是犯罪,现在</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">你贪污十万块都不算个屁了。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">&nbsp;</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">主持人:还有人想发言,因为时间关系,座谈会只能到此为止</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">了。今天,我非常高兴地看到,我们中央党校党史教学部的同</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">志们党性特别强,水平特别高,而且完全相信同志们一定会把</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">中央的精神准确地融汇贯通到教学科研中去。我还看到,我们</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">的教员和教研环境就是与校外的不同,在领会中央精神方面具</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">有巨大的优势,而且这一优势会不断地延续下去的。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">散会之前我想提醒大家一下:今天这个座谈会是内部举行的,</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">我看到有的同志做了记录,请不要外传。因为我校不同于社会</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">上的一般院校,观点不尽相同,免得出现不必要和不健康的争</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">论,有损社会和谐。</div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;"></div><div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: #ffffff;">谢谢大家,散会。</div>