高德禮:全面落實基本法才能保證高度自治

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮(</font>George Cautherley)1942年出生在香港日佔時期的赤柱扣留營,是土生土長的香港第五代居民,但是他是在英國受的教育,至今廣東話仍不靈光。他現已是一位生物科技界和藥品製造業成功的企業家。他在2008年獲得英女皇頒發大英帝國勛章(OBE)。</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">與香港和中國大陸的淵源</font></span></strong><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮的家族與香港和中國大陸有著很深的淵源。他母親</font>1912年生於中國上海,後來成為首批在上海匯豐銀行工作的女性之一。他的父親也在1927年從英國來到上海,與母親同在上海匯豐銀行工作。高德禮家族的一部分首次踏足香港是在1860年代,家族的後人不斷在香港繁衍成長。高德禮的父母在1938年從工作地的上海移居香港,享受著優厚的生活條件,直到幾年後的1941年底日本佔領香港,英軍投降,一家人被帶往赤柱扣留營。日本戰敗投降後,高德禮與母親被帶回英國,1947年舉家又回到香港。三年後,高德禮回到英國讀書。1951年至1954年間,高德禮每年都回香港看望父母,直到1964年他才永久定居在香港,開始從事藥品生意。</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮的生物醫藥公司設在柴灣最好的一座商業大廈,面積達一千多平方米。公司生意做得很大,在中國大陸的深圳和海南省的開設了工廠。他繼承了家族傑出的營商基因,經過超過</font>50年的打拼,把企業經營的有聲有色,他的員工很多都跟隨了他有幾十年,員工都說高德禮是個對人很和藹的好老闆。</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">執著促進香港民主</font> <font face="宋体">以民促會為旗艦</font></span></strong><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮既是英國人更是香港人,他的成長是與中國和香港的命運連在一起的,他對香港這片土地有著深厚的感情,他的成功奮鬥也與香港息息相關。他希望香港作為一國兩制的一個中國特區,不僅能夠保持東方之珠的美譽,還能夠在基本法賦予的民主普選的最終實現方面出一份力。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">因此他在成功經商的同時,把香港的民主發展作為己任,多年來孜孜不倦,出錢出力,現今已是多個民主派智庫和非政府組織的重要成員,而他自己也是香港民主促進會(</font>Hong Kong Democratic Foundation)的早期會員之一,在香港的民主派組織中享有很好的口碑,民促會至今仍發揮著香港民運的協調角色作用,主導著數個研究課題不同的外圍組織。高德禮還是前政務司長陳方安生創立的&#8220;香港2020&#8221;智庫的理事會重要成員。此外,高德禮還主導和資助了&#8220;本土研究所&#8221;關於香港土地供應政策的研究,以及&#8220;社區發展動力培育&#8221;組織的研究工作,後者是引入競爭立法的有力支持者。</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">據高德禮向筆者介紹,民促會成立於</font>1989年10月,1990年初正式以政黨身份開張。當時由麥覺理和梁智鴻擔任民促會領導,民促會成立時,在立法局已經有四個議席,是香港泛民主派一個倡議公共政策的智庫,早期曾活躍於參與香港選舉事務,但在香港主權移交後漸漸離開政壇,轉型為一個智庫。民促會一直沒有停止在香港民主運動中的積極參與,它定期舉辦的午餐演講會,它一直默默進行的香港政改議題研究,它發揮的公共政策智庫作用,仍在民主派圈子裡為人津津樂道。民促會的現任主席為司馬文。</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">民促會的成立,是以一個獨立、跨種族、跨文化政治智庫為目標,希望通過公眾力量讓政府的政策更能令社會變得開放和進步,讓所有人皆能分享社會進步的成果。多年來的觀察可以看出,民促會是溫和的民主派組織,它追求自由民主,但在討論香港的政治發展時,很少直接批評中國政府,而是希望通過協調各派立場,來達成共識,並向政府提出建議,貫穿在政府的政策上。民促會是香港首個提倡設立競爭法的組織,它的經濟政策立場偏向自由經濟方向。在社會議題上,它提出一個強力而堅實的最低工資方案。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">政策研究為主要工作方向</font></span></strong><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮說,我們經常</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">做些</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">政策</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">研究工作,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">主要</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">聚焦政改,還有其它的議題,涉及範圍很廣。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">工作多數是義務人員做的。多年來我們有一位政策委員會主席,他花很多時間寫研究報告,後來工作量太大,難以全部顧及,因此</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">現在我們比較多與</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">一些新興的</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">組織</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">密切</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">合作,都是一些年輕</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">人</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">的組織,做著類似的工作的</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">公共專業聯盟是高德禮和民促會一直扮演重要角色的一個團體組織,在立法會中有兩個席位,專業聯盟和民促會緊密合作,經常一起開會,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">發表報告,召開記者會等</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">最近的議題多數是提議成立獨立調查委員會</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮說,專業聯盟的立法會議員</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">梁繼昌目前正在就成立</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">獨立調查委員會事宜</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">起草私人提案,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">等立法會新一季開始時便會搶先提出。他認為現有的條例未能很好保障警方在遭遇</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">檢控</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">時的</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">權利,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">所以需要提出一個提案來完善。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">談到民促會的午餐演講會,高德禮說,我們今年辦過兩個演講會,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">一個是關於基本法未來的辯論,另外一是教育專家的演講。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">最近</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">我們將要搞一個活動,邀請德國駐中國</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">和日本</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">前大使演講,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">主題涉及</font>&#8220;碎片化和對外交政策的影響&#8221;,也會涉及</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">香港</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">問題。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">本土主義對香港沒有好處</font></span></strong><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">談到近年來香港興起的本土思潮,高德禮認為,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">本土主義</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">和港獨主張</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">對香港</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">事實上</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">沒有好處,有很多觀點帶有誤導性,因為香港是中國的一部分,必須與中國與世界其它地方互動。本土主義的觀點誤導人們認為大陸人來到香港奪走</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">了</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">我們的生活方式。我個人不</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">支持</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">本土主義觀點,我們的視野應該更為寬廣</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">不能將大陸人視為進犯者</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮經常在社會活動中有機會與學生見面。他說,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">我經常對</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">主張獨立的</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">學生們說,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">要面對現實,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">香港是中國的一部分,你只有得到中國同意才能獨立,要求獨立不會獲得國際支持,國際社會仍然尊重香港是中國的一部分,即使你得到了獨立,你又能</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">做什麼</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">?</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">你的食水、食品要靠中國,做生意要靠中國,獨立有什麼用?獨立的想法完全是情緒化的表現,只是這些人不喜歡目前的現狀,他們認為最好靠自己,這是不現實的</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">我跟他們說,你倒不如去</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">爭取</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">基本法得到完全的落實,因為那樣才能滿足你們的大部分要求,我們</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">才</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">能夠</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">取得</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">政改</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">的進展</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,對香港的管治能夠有更多的話語權,如果中國政府</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">更認真細緻地落實</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">基本法</font>20條,不要</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">像現在這樣過</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">多地干預香港事務</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">這樣不更好嗎?</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">現在生活在香港,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">你們擁有</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">自由</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">帶來的好處</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,如果你們與大陸對抗,這種自由就不能保證了。基本法可以保證我們</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">享有好的現狀</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,那麼為何我們不去</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">爭取</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">全面落實基本法呢?</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">不要去追求那些不可能得到的東西。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮認為香港眾志的</font>&#8220;自決&#8221;主張是一種表達上的錯誤。他說,</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">相信他們需要的是高度自治,他們不是</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">要</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">追求香港獨立,他們缺乏良好的表達,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">而</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">李柱銘卻表達得很好,我們需要的是對基本法恰如其分的落實。可惜香港眾志所表達的思想被中央政府認為是港獨,因此他們</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">遇到了參選的困難,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">失去了參選權,被取消資格了。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">香港</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">眾志</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">的</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">成員素質很高,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">他們的方向未必是錯的,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">但他們的表達方式和用語錯了,他們</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">的行為</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">是想落實基本法的。我建議他們應該提出在基本法的框架內自決,也就是高度自治</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">意味著他們支持基本法,中國承諾的東西要落實</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">民主派與中央政府對話很重要</font></span></strong><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮說,泛民</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">最大的失敗</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">是拒絕</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">與中央政府對話,他們</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">一直擔心激進分子的反對,因此表示不與他們割席,以免得罪他們。他們不應該擔心別人的反對,應該堅持自己的理念,對話不意味著你處於弱勢,你可以堅持自己的原則,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">對話是向前走的唯一途徑,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">沒有對話,你做不了任何事情。如果你不與別人對話,如何能夠說服別人?</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮在長期的促進民主活動中,與</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">泛民</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">人士</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">關係很好,但</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">在一些觀點上,也有保留</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">他善於</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">與一些年輕的研究者</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">合作做</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">研究,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">年輕人向他提議說,如果</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">我們不可能得到全面的</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">民主</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">何不</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">爭取在</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">政府組織框架內</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">最大的民主,例如資訊自由,如果我們得不到全面</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">民主</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,我們可以</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">先</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">要求資訊的透明度</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">他說,我常常鼓勵年輕研究者,說</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">我們</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">應該現實點,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">一步一步來,而不是像</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">有些</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">年輕人要求的那樣,得不到全部就拉倒。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">反修例示威走向激進</font> <font face="宋体">得不到任何東西</font></span></strong><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">談到反修例運動中,年輕的示威者在街頭的激進和暴力行為,高德禮說,必須認識到,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">廣大市民的訴求與</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">激進分子</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">的訴求是相同的,他們要求加快民主步伐,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">社會更加公平,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">他們上街,他們和平示威,但是每次和平示威後都有</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">激進分子</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">搞事,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">製造麻煩,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">當和平示威者與暴力者的訴求相同,而兩種示威方式又</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">有差異</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">時,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">我看到了</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">和平示威的群眾對</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">激進分子帶</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">有支持和同情,這是不好的現象。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">他強調,中央政府似乎認為</font>&#8220;五大訴求&#8221;只是這些激進暴力的示威者提出來的,因此不會屈服於這些暴力行為,但實際上訴求是代表了社會上80%的人群,不僅是激進示威者提出的。由於政府一直無視這些訴求,所以和平示威者對激進示威者越來越表示同情。然而,激進示威者的核心已經做好準備,如果政府不回應他們訴求,他們就會摧毀香港,這是極差的結果。和平示威者如果意識到這點,他們就會對激進示威者不再抱有同情態度。</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">他說,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">如果用暴力來向政府爭取什麼,挑戰政府,是行不通的,你得不到任何東西。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">回想到</font>&#8220;雨傘運動&#8221;,當時的商討日活動,我對他們說這是好的,但是談到公民抗命,我就對他們說這是沒有用的。</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">會把你們視為挑戰他們的權威,不會給你任何東西,你只會失敗,但是人們不聽勸阻。民主派似乎不去譴責暴力,他們</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">利用警方的暴力作為施暴的藉口,而不是去譴責</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">激進</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">示威者,你就會失去公信力。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">至於</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">這場運動的結局如何,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮說,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">只有中央政府允許香港政府做些讓步,運動才會結束。關鍵是成立調查委員會,並不是說要追究警方的暴力,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">或是檢控哪些警察,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">而是要</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">如何全面監察</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">大型示威</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">和引發</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">暴力問題</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">的因素</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">在</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">如</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">何處理公眾情緒上,警方做的不是很好,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">應該學習海外的</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">專業</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">經驗。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">基本法的最終目標是實現普選。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">暴力示威者如果看到成立了獨立調查委員會和重啟政改,會結束運動的。目前需要聚焦這兩個方面,我們現在可以開始這個商討進程,可能</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">需要</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">有幾個選舉回合</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">才能最終達至目標</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">。民主派不會忘記基本法承諾的最終普選目標</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">,</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">但是如果現在堅持</font>&#8220;五大訴求缺一不可&#8221;,你不會取得進展。民主派需要作出妥協,分階段來做,如果政府同意2024、2028分階段達成普選,那就有利於雙方的妥協。</span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">高德禮透露,他已在起草一份政改建議書,然後與泛民和建制派和相關團體商議,最後提交給政府。這是一個分步驟實現普選的建議書。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">通識教育教材需要獨立專家小組負責</font></span></strong><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:normal;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">社會上有一種說法,通識教育教材的偏頗誤導了香港的學生,使他們看到太多大陸的黑暗面,對大陸產生偏見。作為特區政府教育部門,長期沒有關注教材的編寫而導致目前的囧局。高德禮認為,通識教材應該反映客觀的情況,包括正面和負面的內容,但是在香港的制度和社會環境之下,過多表述大陸的正面現象是有困難的,如果政府教育部門干預教材的編寫工作,便會導致公信力缺失。最好的辦法是成立一個獨立的專家小組來編寫教材,審核內容,不但對大陸狀況的表述要客觀公正,而且對其它地區和領域的歷史和現狀也要不失偏頗。</font></span><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:normal;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font face="宋体">出錢出力</font> <font face="宋体">專注公共政策研究和發展</font></span></strong><strong><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:bold;font-size:11.0000pt;"></span></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0.0000pt;margin-right:0.0000pt;margin-bottom:10.0000pt; margin-left:0.0000pt;text-indent:0.0000pt;text-align:left; line-height:114%;"><span style="mso-spacerun:'yes';font-family:宋体;line-height:114%; letter-spacing:0.0000pt;font-weight:normal;font-size:11.0000pt;"><font 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